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Learn from the expert Paris Przekurat, Director of Financial Aid, on how to build a budget and pay for college with Macey. Paris explains the ins and outs of budgeting in college and why the FAFSA matters every year for students enrolling in college.

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Macey
Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Redlands Rundown. I'm your host, Macey. I'm very excited about today's episode. We have with us a returning co-host. I'm going to go over the co-host today, Paris, and I never know how to say your last name. [I don't either, Przekurat(Co-cur-at)] But Paris works in financial aid, and so I wanted to have her on again this year, on season two, to talk about budgeting, scholarship opportunities, and just all the information that current students and incoming students really need to have, so I'll let you kind of introduce yourself a little bit more. Tell them a little bit about you. 

Paris
My name is Paris Przekurat. I've been here at Redlands for almost 19 years. Director of financial aid. Went to school here. Graduated from here. So, been here a while, feel like I know everybody. But, yeah.

Macey
Awesome. Yeah. So we'll go over today, and hopefully this episode will help students that maybe you're feeling overwhelmed with having to pay for college. I think there's a little bit of that initial shock value when you see your first bill [definitely] from college. And so we're here to kind of talk through and help give you some different options that you have and different opportunities to look for. So, I want to start first talking about building a college budget, and we'll talk about some other things later on, but can you touch on the importance of why students should consider building a budget? 

Paris
I mean, I think the importance is you don't want to, you know, get to that school, wherever you're going, and then all of a sudden they just throw, you know, a $60,000 bill on you, and then you're like, oh, well, crud, I don't have this much money coming in to pay for this balance. So, if before, I mean, you may have an idea where you're going, but definitely get on to that school's website, have a rough idea of, okay, this is what it's going to cost per year or per semester. And then if I'm going to be there for four years, I'm looking at this much. Do I have, you know, resources to cover that, whether that be financial aid, scholarships, loans, savings that you may already have. It's just I feel like very it could be discouraging for the student if they see that for four years, it's going to be $160,000. But I only have means to, you know, $50,000. Well, then I that's gonna-it could crush a dream, too, if that's where they've always wanted to go. So just kind of have an idea of what it's going to cost. If you have an idea, I've got this in savings or I've got grandparents that are going to help with this, I've got this scholarship coming in, and then if you see, oh, that's going to, that could cover all of it. Maybe I only need 5,000 more dollars then that could be a little more realistic for a person. But it's just you don't want that student to get there, and day one and then they're like, I can't make this possible, and I'm four states away, I've already moved up here, and I'm not gonna be able to pay for this. So, if you can do all that kind of planning ahead of time, sit down with pen and paper and just do the math, a simple math of it. I think that can kind of help you as you transition or as you get there before you get there. 

Macey
Yeah, for sure. That can help you to be prepared whenever you see that. Yeah. And I, I would say that's a lot of, something that I really didn't know when I was graduating high school and looking into colleges, I never really had a plan to come to Redlands, and I'm also Redlands alumni. You know, starting off at the two year school, one of the perks is we are quite a bit cheaper than a bigger four-year university. So, even if you have a dream of going to a specific university, you've always dreamed of going to OU or OSU, you can still do that, but maybe it looks like going to Redlands or a community college for two years first, where you can start off and save some money. And then also we'll probably talk about some other scholarship opportunities that will come with that if you start with us first later on in the episode. Okay. So what are some expenses that some students forget to include kind of in that planning process? 

Paris
I guess books, to me, is going to be one. I mean, we've been doing this a little while, so we're like, yeah, you're going to need books. I think some of the students and it's already week three and they still come to like, oh, I, I guess I need a book, you know, and I'm like, how are you already this far into your classes and you don't realize you need a book? Whether it be they just kind of forgot about it or what, but sometimes, I mean, there are going to be book expenses, sometimes there's not, but you're going to have some book expenses. Even though-you're going to have food, whether if you do a meal plan at a school, but if you don't do a meal plan, you're going to eat out, you're going to McDonald's, you're going to Sonic or whatever. Those are expenses that you're going to have. And if some schools are different, but like with us, we don't disperse any of our aid or scholarships until, you know, 4 to 5 weeks, maybe after classes start. So, if they're depending on that money in a refund to survive and pay for food and stuff, I don't have that. So that could be expenses upfront or early on that they don't have necessarily the money. So yeah, budgeting for that or live where your means are. 

Macey
Yeah. I'll say another thing too: I think a lot of times we just look at tuition, don't forget about fees, also. we're really fortunate that our fees at Redlands are, are very affordable and that they're not a huge price point, but some colleges fees are [More than the tuition] more than the tuition. Yeah. And so that's something to be mindful of. Maybe ask about what fees are going to look like. And if you're not sure about how to check into books and supplies, for us, here at Redlands, we have an online library, I guess, where you can put in your information and it will kind of pull what you need for your classes that you're enrolled in, so you can plan that ahead of time. And then, admissions also has a document that has all of the courses that have free textbooks for our students. So, if that's something that you are saying: hey, I need to, right now, enroll in classes where I have access to free textbooks, and we can definitely help to, to work around that. 

Paris
And I'm going to add on that. So, if you're already enrolled, on that site, it's the bookstore online, if you're enrolled, you can put your student ID in there and it'll link straight to your schedule. So yeah, you can see what you need or you don't need. And even if you're not enrolled, but you have an idea, I want to take this math class or this history class, you can instead of putting in your student ID, you can also just put in that course number and section and so it'll go ahead and pull up just what's needed for that class. So, you can kind of get an idea too. [Yeah.] Or if you know, hey, I've only got $200 I can spend on books, you can kind of shop around and see: well, that one's a little more expensive for right now. Whatever. [Yeah.] Switch it up. 

Macey
Another tip I will share, and this is something that I did as I got later into my college career. And I do it now, because I'm, I'm in school right now, sometimes you can check rental, like book rental websites. A couple are like BooksRun, Valore, Chegg, You have to have-[Amazon, too.] So, there's lots of other websites where you can look up the title, make sure you look up the correct version, and the author's, or what is it, the ISN? [ISBN] where you can look that up and a lot of times you can rent them a lot cheaper. [Oh for sure.] I have a textbook this semester, when I looked it up on my university's website and the rental was maybe $100, $150, and I rented it, I think for $17 through Valore, something like that. 

Paris
And the good thing, even with that, I've done it where you rented them or you bought them cheaper on a different website. And then when you're done with the book, like, I don't need this book anymore, I'm never going to use it. I even just Googled it and was like: hey, where can I sell back college books or whatever and it let you shop around. You put in that ISBN number and then it gave you different sites and it may say, and you've spent, you know, 30 bucks on the book, but it may say, oh, this site gives you $15, this will give you $20, and so you just select which one you want, it sends you or it gives you the shipping label, you just print that, put it in a box, send it, and then they'll just send you the money so you can even get some of that money back too. 

Macey
Yeah. So those are some good tips to keep in mind, especially whenever it comes to books. That's been really helpful for me. How often do you think students should be revisiting their budget, planning those things? 

Paris
Once they're at the school or the college, I think every semester. Because one semester, they might only take four classes, the next semester they're taking 5 or 6. So that out of pocket expense or whatever their bill is going to be can definitely change every semester based on the number of hours they're in or even the classes, because one class may have couple extra fees if it's a science class or something. So, definitely revisit it every year or every semester and see-it may be about the same. And you're like, oh, okay, we're good, you know? But it could be a little bit more, might be a little bit less, but definitely every semester. 

Macey
Yeah. And for those of our listeners that want to actually track all of their expenses, we were visiting at about a few different ways. And I visited with friends before about what they use, and there's a lot of free apps that are available to you, but we kind of agreed, even just using an Excel sheet, a Google Excel or Google document where you can see what you're spending your money on, I think that really gives you like new control over your money. So you can be very conscious-

Paris
Or when you just see it or be on paper or. Yeah, in the spreadsheet. I mean, you need to ideally you're seeing what's coming in is more than what's going out, you know. But yeah, I think just seeing that would definitely help the students. 

Macey
Yeah. When I started [or for people in general] when I started at school, I remember my mom called me after the first couple weeks. She's like, you need to be careful about how much you're eating out. And so I know that that's challenging for some of our students and groceries can be expensive [they haven't had to do this before.] Yeah. So if you need-also if you need resources, something that we have here on campus, we have a food pantry that's free for our students. And so that's another great tip for saving money, use the resources that we have available on campus and stop by and get some groceries, get a snack in between class. That's for you guys-

Paris
And for, like you said, with the food pantry, and we just got a flier delivered to us yesterday, but our BCM does the free lunches, so you know, every little bit that you can get that's going to help save an expense if it's a lunch or dinner or a snack, you know. So yeah. [Yeah.] And we're not the only college that's going to do, like I know the free meals like with the BCM, I know other universities and stuff like that. We'll do free meals throughout the week. You just need to get in contact with them. And again you have your budget sheet. But then you can also do a little calendar and say, you know, we got free lunch this day and free lunch. Oh, I'll go get free food here. And so... 

Macey
Yeah, absolutely. Cool. I think those are all really helpful tips and ways that students can be kind of conscious of what they're spending their money on and saving some. So I want to transition now to talk about scholarships and financial aid and dig into that a little bit more. So, I want you to first touch on what kind of financial aid is available to our students.

Paris
So primarily, I mean, we kind of focus on in our office, in financial aid office, filling out the FAFSA. So, when you fill out the FAFSA, that's a free application, don't ever pay for it. That seeing or letting us know and you, the student, know that if you qualify for Pell Grant, which is the free grants, you have to fill that application out to see if you qualify for any student loans. Here in Oklahoma, we have Oklahoma's Promise. And so one requirement of that once you're in college is filling out the FAFSAevery year. So you have to do that. A lot of tribal grants, most I would say, require you to fill out the FAFSA. There's some extra little state and federal grants that they give out too, requirement as well as the FAFSA. Some outside scholarships may require the FAFSA, but it's kind of the, it's where you are going to start to see what you qualify for. And it doesn't hurt if you end up not qualifying for some of that stuff. It doesn't hurt. It's not a credit check on you or anything like that. But it definitely lets you know and then lets us know kind of what you can qualify from and for and then we go from there.

Macey
Yeah. And then outside of Paris's office, I'm a little more involved with scholarships that we offer internally here at Redlands. So few things that we have are our tuition waivers. We have tuition waivers for freshmen and returning students so everybody qualifies to apply for those. Those can range anywhere from 250 to $1000, depending on how many credits you're enrolled in. Also, we select our Presidential and our Regents, which is a scholarship, up to 16 hours, plus books and fees each semester, from our freshman tuition waiver applicants. So, current seniors that's something to keep in mind. That's essentially a full ride outside of housing. And so, yeah, we look at several different things for those ACT, GPA, class rank, extracurricular involvement, there's some short essay questions. And then another opportunity is our foundation scholarships that we have internally. They award right around $60,000. That's one application through our Foundation and puts you in the pool for all of those scholarships. So, it's very much so worth your time to do one application to be in the pool. And then we also have, a Reach Higher scholarship, which is more focused on our adult students who have some college credit but didn't finish their degree, and so if that's you and you've been on the fence about coming back to school, know that there is support intentionally set aside for you financially to help, you know, address any financial barriers that you may have. So those are just a few of the internal scholarship opportunities that we have here at Redlands. 

Paris
And I just want to add a little bit. I don't know if other institutions are like this, but I feel like this happens a lot here with the Foundation scholarships: a lot of times there's just not that many people that apply. I don't know if they don't want to take the time and write the essay problem or the essay question or answers, but there's just not that many. And so there's times that'll come through, those scholarships end up coming to us and we award them, and it's like, well, no one's on this one, no one's getting this one. And I think a lot of it is there's just not people applying. So I mean, that kind of helps the, the pool of applicants if there's lesser, you know, people actually applying that increases your chances, but definitely apply. I mean it doesn't hurt anything again, so. 

Macey
Yeah, absolutely. So tell us a little bit more about when students should be doing their FAFSA applications for scholarships, that window is November 1st through February 1st. But for FAFSA and on your side of things, what's the timeline look like for students? 

Paris
So, the academic year that we're in right now is 2026-27. So the FAFSA that we are using, was available starting October of 2025. So it does seem a little weird because you go back, but you can still fill out that same application right now. If-students could be enrolled right now and haven't figured it out, and that's fine, so you can still fill it out. The next FAFSA that will be available is the 2027-28. And as far as I know, October 1st, sometimes that changes with the Department of Ed. But if it's October 1st, that one would be available and that one's going to start for the academic school year, that would be fall of 2027. So the high school seniors right now, that would be like when they're going to be starting school, their freshman year in college. So, they would start filling that FAFSA out this October. And it is a requirement for Oklahoma seniors, high school seniors for them to fill out the FAFSA to graduation requirement as well.

Macey
Awesome, yeah, that's good to know. So later this fall, that's something you need to be looking out for the FAFSA application, our internal application. And then something I want to touch on: You can also apply for scholarships outside of Redlands. There's lots-thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of scholarships that are available. A website that I would encourage you to look at is Oklahoma College Start. That's a database that has about 20,000 different scholarship opportunities. I know that the Regents recently have put together a new scholarship that I've shared with lots of students. It's a little more workforce-focused, but there's thousands of scholarships on there. And so, especially for our Oklahoma students, but we have a lot of out-of-state students that that come as well. And so, look into your local community, a lot of local businesses, [churches] churches, organizations offer scholarships. Look statewide, because you can a lot of times take those different places. And then another thing that I tell students, sometimes if we have students that are coming to Redlands and being on a competitive team, and that's something we haven't touched on, if you're interested in playing sports or being on some kind of team, a lot of times there are scholarships associated with that. So we have some students that have a lot of support because they're going to be a competitive member of the livestock judging team or whatever team it is. You can see about deferring those scholarships too sometimes if, if your bill is going to be zeroed out after your aid or whatever scholarships you have, and you don't need to cash that in yet, see if you can defer that until you know you transfer on and your bills are going to be more expensive and use that then, so that's kind of another-

Paris
And we do, like with our business office, so in that situation, if a student can have everything covered and they're not going to need to use any of those outside scholarships that they're bringing in with them, they still may send that check to Redlands. So again, you know, if a student may not want to hold on to a, you know, $10,000 outside check, or what am I going to do with this for two years? So they can even still give it to us, and if we're not putting that towards their balance because we don't need to, it's already covered, we kind of keep it in their own account here. So, we keep, on an Excel sheet, we keep a balance of that. And so then, when they're done here after two years and they're transferring on, they just need to let us know: hey, this is where I'm going, and then we can just transfer that 10,000, 20,000, whatever it might be, transfer that on with them. [Yeah.] So maybe a little easier than them having to keep up with it or because sometimes those donors, whoever gives that scholarship, they're like, no, this is it, we're not holding on to it. If you send it back, like, you don't get it. So, they can still send it to us, we'll hold on to it, and then send it on with them.

Macey
Yeah. And if you need help navigating those decisions, you're always welcome to ask. [Oh for sure.] Business office, financial aid, anybody. We're, we're happy to help you navigate those decisions and see what the best option for you is. You touched a little bit on rolling things over, keeping an account versus getting a refund. For students that get refunds, do you have any tips for them? What to do with that money? 

Paris
Don't go crazy. It never fails. It seems like every year, you know, after refunds, they might get a hefty little chunk of money. And I get it. They're not used to having this kind of money. And, you know, maybe mom and dad are monitoring it, you know, money at home. But I get this, and it could be a couple thousand. And they come in with some new tattoos, some new shoes, some new clothes, and I get it. But then, you know, here in a couple weeks there, they don't have food, you know, or they needed that book or whatever it might be. So I get it, I understand it. We-I've been there too as a student, but just know like, yeah, when you transfer someone-somewhere else, your expenses are going to be more, it's more expensive there. So, if you can set that back aside or, you know, put it in savings and know that you're going to need this probably later on, or just get that Excel sheet out or that, you know, app or whatever and be like, okay, you can play with a little bit of this money, but then this is the stuff that does need to be paid, or if I've got a bill I've got to pay, whatever. But [yeah, yeah] be a little smart with it. Don't go crazy. 

Macey
Absolutely. And then one final thing I would encourage, because I do feel like we have a lot of students at Redlands that balance also full-time jobs: ask your employer if they offer any kind of tuition assistance programs. We're fortunate at Redlands, a lot, our employees here have a lot of tuition assistance or partnerships with other universities that support their cost there. And so ask your employer, if they offer anything, it may be like a reimbursement afterwards or, stipend or whatever that might look like-

Paris
We had a student-it was a couple of years ago, but she worked at the Chick-fil-A in Yukon, and she ends up coming in and she had a nice scholarship check from them because she had worked for them for a couple of years. And I want to say we even had someone just the other day-it was McDonald's. [Yeah.] And they said they worked there-they had a sheet, you know, that they were going to be paying some tuition and stuff. And so yeah, yeah. 

Macey
It's, it's always yeah, it's always worthwhile to ask because the worst case scenario is you are going to be exactly where you were. It's, it's never going to hurt anything to ask and to, to advocate for yourselves. What can a student do if they're struggling to pay for school? Let's, let's say that they're they're-

Paris
Definitely I mean, it's going to probably be different at different universities or colleges. I feel like I've-since we are small enough, definitely come and talk to someone, because we might know resources or it could be someone-They come to me and I may contact you and be like, hey, they just they're short a couple hundred dollars and then I may ask you: Hey, is there any tuition waiver money left? Because that may be just what they need, you know, to help them out or if they're strapped for cash. I mean, the Foundation has, you know, another little-I think it's like $750 they can apply for. It's not necessarily that they're short for money for school, but could be stuff going on at home, you know, and there are resources out there. And sometimes it's just talking to one person and then that person can get you in contact with another office, another person that may know something, or, you know, could even be looking for a job, and I don't know of anything, but you do, you know, so just kind of letting someone know, and that's fine. You can talk to us. Not saying you can't at a bigger university, but it is a benefit, I think, of us being so small. I know who deals with scholarships. I know the person in the business office, you know, and we all know each other, and we're all here for, you know, the same greater good of, you know, helping these students succeed. And they can't succeed if they're not able to eat, you know. So I think just come and talk to someone, you know, we'll try to help you whatever way we can. 

Macey
Yeah. And another thing I want to mention too, we have some more continuing ed. type programs, and we're really fortunate to have partner agencies that have funded a lot of our students that have went through those, like, for example, we just added a new CDL training program here. And, the Oklahoma workforce, which it's WIOA funds, and then Yukon Work Ready. Those are two organizations that have funded several of our students that have went through. And so if you don't have any resources, but you're looking for something especially like that, that's more of a short-term training opportunity that, you know, opens the door for a lot of employment, you know, right away. There's also other resources for that as well. 

Paris
And then we have too, I mean, for say, for some reason, if you don't qualify for financial aid, you don't get any scholarships, no tuition waivers, nothing: they do have a payment plan, you know, so it's-we're not a school where you have to have your whole bill paid the first day of classes, or we're going to drop you from them. We don't do that. So, if you're taking a couple classes and you sign up early enough, you can pay that out throughout the semester. So that makes it a little easier than having to pay a huge lump sum all at one time. 

Macey
Yeah. So absolutely. Okay. So I want to kind of summarize some do's and don'ts. So some dos: complete the FAFSA every year. [Yeah. Yeah.] Apply for multiple scholarships, anything you see that you think you are a good applicant for, apply for all of them. Even if you're on the fence. Apply. Keep track of deadlines. We mentioned some of the timeline things for scholarships for our seniors, returning students, November through February is that applicant window for next year scholarship pool. Tuition waivers are always open throughout the year, but that priority deadline is February 1st. Ask questions. If you don't understand your financial aid package or if you get like, do students get an email or a notification that they qualify for certain loans or awards? 

Paris
So yeah, once we receive the FAFSA and if we're processing stuff, if they get awarded, then yes, they get an email telling them to log in and then they can view their awards. If we're missing a document, they'll get an email to saying, log in. You can see what you're missing. So, check your email is a huge one. I remember saying that on the last podcast, but I'm like, check your email. So check it. And then if you don't hear anything, say you do check your email and you're not receiving anything, but, you know, you filled out that application: contact us. There could be something going on. Or maybe you thought you completed the application. There's one step that wasn't finalized, so we can try to look that up and see, okay, but definitely keep in communication or just follow up and make sure everything's good. 

Macey
Yeah. And then the last thing: borrow only what you need. So that you don't, you know, take on more debt than, than what you need. Don't wait until last minute. You said this one: (don't) ignore email from financial aid or any emails from Redlands. That's something that we talk about with students: Check your emails. That's how I send out scholarship offers is through emails. So make sure you're checking that, paying attention to those things. Don't assume that you won't qualify for scholarships. I've talked about this with job applications also with students before. But even if you think in your mind, oh, I'm not going to get that. Just apply. It's going to be worth your time. 

Paris
Well and kind of on that to I mean a lot of your scholarships, yes, maybe based on GPA or class rank, ACT scores and stuff, but sometimes, I mean, like the tuition waivers, it's because they may think, oh, I don't have the best GPA or, you know, that's okay, because this one's not necessarily oh, you have to have a 4.0 or a 3.5 whatever. [Yeah, exactly.] So yeah, don't be discouraged because you don't have the best GPA. 

Macey
Yeah. And then finally, don't skip buying required course materials if they are essential for success. I had this conversation with a student. Actually, I've had two conversations in the last week asking, do I really need to buy this? It's this amount of money, but I can't get to my work if I don't buy it. So, I know that that can seem like an extra cost, and you want to just ignore that, like, hey, you need to get this textbook, but a lot of times it says it's required for your course and your instructor's telling you, you need that. That's going to be essential to, to your success in the course. So don't, don't just ignore those things. Okay. Cool. So I want to kind of move on. How can students contact financial aid. 

Paris
Yeah. So our phone number you can just contact it'll be the front desk. And if no one answers that, it'll roll over to the other offices, but phone number is (405) 422-6250, so you can just call us directly. You can email us financial.aid@RedlandsCC.edu. So we monitor that daily. But yeah. Either one of those and [okay] we're usually on it. 

Macey
Cool. And then what advice would you give a first-time college student? 

Paris
Fill out the FAFSA. Don't think like, oh, I'm not going to be able to do this. Like, I'm not smart enough to go to college. I mean, you can do it. You know, money can be there if you search for it. And like you mentioned, I'm not just promoting a community college because we work at one, but that is a way to make a whole experience a little bit cheaper to go to a community college. We've got the resources to possibly help you. So do that. I don't know. It's possible it's an investment in your future. So you may have to take out a little bit of loans. It's not the end of the world, especially if you can be mindful about only taking out maybe what you need. But, yeah, you can have definitely a return on your investment once you graduate and you're working and everything.

Macey
Yeah. And something I didn't mention. Also, if you go to a community college first and then transfer on, there's a lot of transfer scholarship opportunity. [Yeah] We have some that we offer internally through partnerships with other schools. But I remember when I transferred from Redlands to OSU, I got a transfer scholarship because of my GPA or whatever that was. So, there's a lot of transfer scholarship opportunities. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. Thank you for joining us. I think this will be really helpful for students. I think both seniors, and those nearing high school graduation, and our current students know that there's opportunities and resources for all of you guys. And at the end of the day, we are all here to help you. So if you're overwhelmed or you don't know what to do, just reach out. We're here to support you, so make sure to join us next time on Redlands Rundown. Subscribe and follow wherever you get your podcast from and we will see you next time on the Redlands run down. Bye.